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12/04/2009 4:08 PM
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FPfL212CB8&feature=related

 

something thats important to me if you have a few min plz watch. It is regaurding proposed bill hr 669 baning non native animals could cover everything from reptiles to spiders to fish to rodents.

 
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13/04/2009 5:37 PM
 

Ok, so I watched the video. Personally, I find it troubling that they shared little information about the Bill itself. The basis of their argument seems to be "The Bill will take our pets away". However it seems from what little information I could glean from the video that the intent is to prevent the introduction of foreign anmals and or plants into american ecosystems.  I live in MS and can look out my window and witness first hand the effects of bringing non-indigenous life into an ecosystem (Kudzu is affectionaltely called "the second Japanese invasion down here). Is it Brian's argument that the native species that die because of competetion from some new species that was released by irresponsible pet owners doesn't matter because they are not pets?

Secondly. They use the argument that Pet trade business will suffer if they pass the bill, from the big franchises to the mom&pops. How do people not see the absurdity in that point? Do they not realize that the exact same argument was used by slave traders to justify continuing that institution? o_0. Just because and economy is based on some accepted practice is not a reason to continue it.

Personally I am neutral at the moment on whether people whould be able keep/breed exotic pets. But I feel their argument is a weakly supported attempt to "tug at people's heart strings" to gain opposition against a bill whose intent is to protect the environment.
 

 
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07/05/2009 7:55 PM
 

I've just finished reading hr 669 and have to say that while it does need to be cleaned up, it seems like a good idea. Its goal is to limit the potential for damage done to the environment, economy and native species.

HR 669 allows for special permits to be granted for education, research, and display (zoos, etc). You want to have a python or hamster as a pet? Too bad. Yes, that sucks. But so does trashing the ecosystem. Look at Australia and the feral cat problem there.

I browsed a number of the sites of people who oppose this bill. Many of them are involved in issues such as recycling, reducing our cabron footprint, etc.

Plastic bottles don't breed (even if they seem like they do). Animals do. If this came to Canada, I would support it provided some of the wording were cleaned up. If cats were declared non-native (which they technically are), I'd have to find a new home for mine if I left my province, or would have to get a special permit to move with them. When they pass on, I would find some in the SPCA or somewhere else and adopt. When there are none left in the country, I will be sad, but there will at least be a reason for it.

The proposal doesn't suck. The need for it does.

 

 
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