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27/12/2007 8:54 PM

Sweebish

Joined: 18/11/2007

Posts: 99

Combat logs! Modified By Sweebish on 27/12/2007 8:12:09 PM

I thought it might be fun to post a combat log or so to show what our characters average battle is like. To turn on Combat logging jsut type /combatlog and the game will report to you it has started logging and where the logs is.

For my sample fight I chose a Netherdrake I was farming for leather.

12/27 08:49:29.888 Your Throw hits Lesser Nether Drake for 130.
12/27 08:49:31.185 Lesser Nether Drake attacks. You dodge.
12/27 08:49:31.357 You miss Lesser Nether Drake.
12/27 08:49:31.560 Your Shiv crits Lesser Nether Drake for 276.
12/27 08:49:31.576 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 230 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:31.592 You crit Lesser Nether Drake for 463.
12/27 08:49:32.420 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
12/27 08:49:32.592 You hit Lesser Nether Drake for 94.
12/27 08:49:32.904 Your Shiv hits Lesser Nether Drake for 110.
12/27 08:49:32.920 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 227 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:32.920 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 208 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:33.232 Lesser Nether Drake hits you for 194.
12/27 08:49:33.545 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
12/27 08:49:33.998 You hit Lesser Nether Drake for 92.
12/27 08:49:34.029 Your Shiv hits Lesser Nether Drake for 112.
12/27 08:49:34.029 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 206 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:34.201 You hit Lesser Nether Drake for 250.
12/27 08:49:34.826 Your Shiv hits Lesser Nether Drake for 108.
12/27 08:49:34.842 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 183 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:35.373 You crit Lesser Nether Drake for 165.
12/27 08:49:35.373 Lesser Nether Drake misses you.
12/27 08:49:35.685 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 194 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:36.013 Your Shiv hits Lesser Nether Drake for 119.
12/27 08:49:36.029 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 225 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:36.498 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
12/27 08:49:36.498 You crit Lesser Nether Drake for 176.
12/27 08:49:36.810 You hit Lesser Nether Drake for 216.
12/27 08:49:37.295 Your Fiery Weapon hits Lesser Nether Drake for 41 Fire damage.
12/27 08:49:37.295 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
12/27 08:49:37.342 Your Eviscerate hits Lesser Nether Drake for 945.
12/27 08:49:37.357 You gain 25 Energy from Relentless Strikes Effect.
12/27 08:49:37.357 Lesser Nether Drake hits you for 222.
12/27 08:49:37.670 Lesser Nether Drake is afflicted by Deadly Poison VII.
12/27 08:49:37.842 You miss Lesser Nether Drake.
12/27 08:49:39.045 You hit Lesser Nether Drake for 96.
12/27 08:49:39.185 Lesser Nether Drake attacks. You dodge.
12/27 08:49:39.342 You crit Lesser Nether Drake for 548.
12/27 08:49:39.529 Your Shiv hits Lesser Nether Drake for 120.
12/27 08:49:39.545 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 188 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:40.154 Lesser Nether Drake is afflicted by Deadly Poison VII (2).
12/27 08:49:40.154 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
12/27 08:49:40.170 Lesser Nether Drake suffers 111 Nature damage from your Deadly Poison VII.
12/27 08:49:40.498 You hit Lesser Nether Drake for 92.
12/27 08:49:40.842 Your Shiv hits Lesser Nether Drake for 107.
12/27 08:49:40.857 You have slain Lesser Nether Drake!
12/27 08:49:40.873 Your Instant Poison VII hits Lesser Nether Drake for 202 Nature damage.
12/27 08:49:41.185 Lesser Nether Drake dies.

This was a slow fight for me. Usually a bit quicker.
Damage taken is about average for frighting these.

Total time: 11.297 seconds
Damage Taken: 416
Damage Given:

Throw:                     130             2.1%
Fiery enchant:           41            0.6%
White Damage:   2192          34.5%
Shiv:                       1059          16.7%
Deadly Poison:    111           1.8%
Instant Poison:    1863           29.4%
Eviscerate:              945           14.9%
___________________________
Total:                     6341         100.0%

DPS: 561.3
Combo Points: 7 used 5
Combat potency procs: 5 for an extra 75 energy during fight
Relentless strikes proc'd once for 25 energy.
Toital of 100 bonus energy during fight, one full bar!

While it looks like white damage is king of this spread, bear in mind most of the instants that hit were automatic applications from shiv. So we could easily combine their percentages for 46.1% of the damage.

Looking back on it I may just apply instant to my main hand as well, the one time poison proc'd off it would have easily been double the damage. So I actually learned somethign from this self analysis, go me.

17/01/2008 4:42 PM

Skelnik

Joined: 09/08/2007

Posts: 903

Re: Combat logs!

I think you'll find that Deadly Poison will give more damage over time for longer fights, such as boss fights. When speccing for PvE, you typically spec for boss fights, as that's where rogues are most useful (and in places like Kara, even the regular mobs are like mini-bosses). If speccing for farming PvE, then that's a little different, and Deadly isn't as useful, as seen above. In the case of farming PvE, the 2-piece Assassination armor bonus is much handier, whereas it's useless against bosses because they aren't affected by Kidney Shot. Then again, if you're going to get serious about farming, roll a mage.

I typically use Deadly Poison on my main, and Instant on my offhand. When I'm playing arenas for PvP, I use Crippling Poison instead of Instant (It helps me keep up with those dang hunters).

18/01/2008 3:17 PM

Skelnik

Joined: 09/08/2007

Posts: 903

Re: Combat logs!

What did you use to parse and analyze the data? Or, did you do it by hand?

18/01/2008 4:45 PM

Skelnik

Joined: 09/08/2007

Posts: 903

Re: Combat logs! Modified By Skelnik on 18/01/2008 5:44:54 PM

Here's a sample combat log from a fight I had with a level 71 Nethermine Flayer. This is a non-elite mob that I kill frequently for a couple netherwing daily quests.

The particular mobs hit fairly hard, and are weaker from behind than from the front (as are most mobs who can Block). My strategy is to stealth up to them, distract them to turn them away from me, cheap shot them which stuns them, use a Slice and Dice with my two Cheap Shot combo points, and then start building up more combo points with Sinister Strike. When the mob comes out of stun, I Kidney Shot them to stun them again, run behind them to attack from behind again, and continue to SS them until they're dead, with perhaps an Eviscerate near the end. The Slice and Dice will last the entire fight.

If a wandering patrol mob comes along during the fight, as they often do in these caves, I'll pop my Core of Ar'Kelos and turn on Blade Flurry in order to take the second mob down at the same time.

I could kill them a little quicker (and thus increase my DPS) by using an Eviscerate instead of a Kidney Shot halfway through the fight, but as I plan on killing as many of these as I can in a row without stopping for a break, I choose to stun them a second time in order to take less damage.

Note that in this fight, my Mongoose did not Proc. This is typical, as it's a 12 second fight, and Mongoose procs once per minute on average. Also, I used a spreadsheet to calculate the stats at the end.

1/17 20:38:16.646 You perform Distract on Nethermine Flayer.
1/17 20:38:19.657 Stealth fades from you.
1/17 20:38:19.941 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 196.
1/17 20:38:20.225 Nethermine Flayer is afflicted by Cheap Shot.
1/17 20:38:20.492 You gain Aura of the Crusader.
1/17 20:38:20.492 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 303.
1/17 20:38:20.914 You gain Slice and Dice.
1/17 20:38:20.918 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
1/17 20:38:21.312 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 203.
1/17 20:38:21.596 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 262.
1/17 20:38:21.880 Nethermine Flayer is afflicted by Deadly Poison VII.
1/17 20:38:21.880 Your Instant Poison VII hits Nethermine Flayer for 171 Nature damage.
1/17 20:38:21.887 Your Sinister Strike hits Nethermine Flayer for 328.
1/17 20:38:22.167 Nethermine Flayer is afflicted by Deadly Poison VII (2).
1/17 20:38:22.450 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 201.
1/17 20:38:22.717 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 261.
1/17 20:38:23.036 Your Instant Poison VII hits Nethermine Flayer for 160 Nature damage.
1/17 20:38:23.903 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 212.
1/17 20:38:23.903 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 273.
1/17 20:38:24.188 Cheap Shot fades from Nethermine Flayer.
1/17 20:38:24.472 Nethermine Flayer suffers 94 Nature damage from your Deadly Poison VII.
1/17 20:38:24.773 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 285.
1/17 20:38:25.041 Nethermine Flayer crits you for 507.
1/17 20:38:25.041 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 219.
1/17 20:38:25.495 Your Sinister Strike crits Nethermine Flayer for 784.
1/17 20:38:26.045 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 154.
1/17 20:38:26.346 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 198.
1/17 20:38:26.630 You are afflicted by Shred Armor.
1/17 20:38:26.630 Nethermine Flayer is afflicted by Deadly Poison VII (3).
1/17 20:38:26.900 Nethermine Flayer hits you for 266.
1/17 20:38:27.132 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 109. (51 blocked)
1/17 20:38:27.405 Nethermine Flayer suffers 187 Nature damage from your Deadly Poison VII.
1/17 20:38:27.405 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 402.
1/17 20:38:27.685 Nethermine Flayer is afflicted by Kidney Shot.
1/17 20:38:27.686 Nethermine Flayer is afflicted by Deadly Poison VII (4).
1/17 20:38:28.187 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 289.
1/17 20:38:28.688 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 421.
1/17 20:38:29.925 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 312.
1/17 20:38:29.925 You miss Nethermine Flayer.
1/17 20:38:30.227 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
1/17 20:38:30.227 Nethermine Flayer suffers 188 Nature damage from your Deadly Poison VII.
1/17 20:38:30.463 Kidney Shot fades from Nethermine Flayer.
1/17 20:38:31.014 You crit Nethermine Flayer for 301.
1/17 20:38:31.014 Your Sinister Strike hits Nethermine Flayer for 307.
1/17 20:38:31.286 You hit Nethermine Flayer for 199.
1/17 20:38:31.286 Nethermine Flayer hits you for 260.
1/17 20:38:31.286 Nethermine Flayer is afflicted by Deadly Poison VII (5).
1/17 20:38:31.289 You have slain Nethermine Flayer!
1/17 20:38:31.625 Nethermine Flayer dies.
1/17 20:38:31.625 You gain Aura of the Crusader (20).
1/17 20:38:31.716 You gain 15 Energy from Combat Potency.
1/17 20:38:32.270 You gain Remorseless.

1691 (24.09%) - White Hit (9 Hits)
3109 (44.29%) - White Crit (10 Crits)
4800 (68.39%) - Total White Dmg

1419 (20.22%) - Sinister Strike (2 Hits, 1 Crit)

331 (4.72%) - IP Damage (2 Applications, 2 Damage Procs)
469 (6.68%) - DP Damage (5 Applications, 3 Damage Procs)
165.5 - IP Dmg per Application
93.8 - DP Dmg per Application

7019 - Total Dmg Dealt
11.97s - Fight Length
586.48 - DPS

1 Miss, est. 188 Damage Lost (White Hit Damage / White Hits)
+45 Energy from Combat Potency

1033 Dmg Taken (3 Hits)

As I can see from this small sample, I'm likely better off wielding dual Instant Poisons for all fights that last less than, say, 15 seconds long. It's harder to apply Instant Poison, but the Deadly Poison damage takes time to accumulate.

Also, these numbers support the 1-Roll theory of combat. In other words, you don't need to Hit to Crit. Hit is better for rogues in that it allows more procs, but having a Relentless Earthstorm Diamond as your helmet Meta gem will make Crit almost equal to Hit. Again, though, things depend on your equipment and style. If you've got a trinket that procs on Crit, then you may want to boost your Crit a little. Hold on to that Hit gear, though, as you may find a better trinket down the road.

18/01/2008 11:43 PM

Sweebish

Joined: 18/11/2007

Posts: 99

Re: Combat logs!

Skelnik wrote

What did you use to parse and analyze the data? Or, did you do it by hand?

Did it by hand.

Of course for an extended fight Deadly Poison would be better. But really, with decent gear, how many of your fights last more than 15 seconds?

19/01/2008 2:42 AM

Skelnik

Joined: 09/08/2007

Posts: 903

Re: Combat logs!

Sweebish wrote

Of course for an extended fight Deadly Poison would be better. But really, with decent gear, how many of your fights last more than 15 seconds?

Only the Heroic Instances and Raids.

19/01/2008 3:36 PM

Skelnik

Joined: 09/08/2007

Posts: 903

Re: Combat logs!

I tried double Instant Poison when doing my dailies last night, and I could notice an improvement in performance. I was able to kill 20 Netherblade Transporters without having to stop and bandage or eat once! (And this meant leftover Netherweave Cloth for the Guild Bank. )

19/04/2008 11:04 AM

Dwarfisshort

Joined: 14/02/2008

Posts: 93

Re: Combat logs!

I dare not post any of my combat logs. a combination of low dps and high threat from always being in prot stance makes for combat logs that are very very long.

Dwarf

"Hey look, a Prot Warrior trying to pvp, let's focus on his 31k health and armor pool and ignore the squishy's killing us." - The Horde

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